Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) clashed with President-elect Donald Trump‘s pick for Education secretary Tuesday over whether guns should be allowed in schools. 

At her Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee hearing, Betsy DeVos declined to answer the question directly and said it should be left to states to make that decision.

“I think that’s best left to locales and states to decide,” DeVos said.

Murphy cut her off, adding, “You can’t say definitively today that guns shouldn’t be in schools?”

Murphy, who’s a vocal gun control advocate, represented his home state in the upper chamber when 20 children and six adults were killed during the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Conn.

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